Thank you Gary, i have already had a Kronos and was just taken with the Orchestral sounds on the Montage and wanted some similarities so i would have the option of using the two boards more like a two manual organ. There are some great expansion kits for organs on both....Chris >>> Not wanting to rain on your parade here, but instead of a Genos and a Montage you might want to consider getting the Genos and a Korg Kronos or a Roland FA-08 or a Kurzweil Forte instead to avoid duplicating sounds on both boards.
Chances are that most of the voices on the two boards will have close duplicates and most pros prefer to mix and match manufacturers in order to achieve a wider palette of sounds.
Much as you may love Yamaha's sound it really doesn't make sense to own two keyboards with the same pedigree in your rig.
Variety is the spice of life and I am constantly on the prowl for new and different sounding synths.
Has anyone ever designed a keyboard with retractable or fold out legs? Does such a system like this exist?
I can think of numerous benefits.
Gotcha Gary!, many thanks!, this is all a steep learning curve. The good thing is i can always do a trade with my montage at any point. Although they are the same make of keyboard i thought they both serve a very different purpose so i thought i was doing right.OK Chris, but in case you didn't realize it, it's pretty simple to MIDI up two keyboards and use the manuals of both to play the sounds of one or the other. Just assign each voice to a different channel and it's possible to do multitimbral splits and layers on multiple keyboards simultaneously on higher end keyboards.
Really no need to reinvent the wheel at $5000 a pop.
In truth the Montage is a top of the line workstation while the Genos is a top of the line arranger.
This means that the main difference of the keyboards is the focus of application.
While the arranger allows you to play along with, create and arrange musical styles easily you are still essentially playing along with and recording canned beats.
The Montage can accomplish similar things with the inbuilt sequencer, creating canned beats on individual tracks along with accompaniment, but relies more on the keyboardist''s skill in playing since it does not have the auto accompaniment and instant chording features of the arranger, but has instead a crapload of arpeggiators and a more powerful, multiple synth engines for creating and tweaking sounds.
So with a gazillion styles built in and available for download, the arranger makes life easier for the mediocre player while the workstation makes you work harder for it but generates completely original content.
Ultimately though, a lot of it boils down to what styles of music you are into and what you want to accomplish musically?
If you are looking to play a lot of old jazz standards and old style pop music covers or C&W and hillbilly and Hawaiian music then an arranger probably has you covered.
If you are looking to play some hard edged techno and punk and new wave alternative or score a modern film, then I'd say a workstation would cover you better coupled with a Minimoog or a Dave Smith Prophet 6 or 12 on the second tier.
They do serve different purposes, as outlined above. I would love that combination myself, actually, especially since you wouldn't be playing out. Perfect for the studio.Gotcha Gary!, many thanks!, this is all a steep learning curve. The good thing is i can always do a trade with my montage at any point. Although they are the same make of keyboard i thought they both serve a very different purpose so i thought i was doing right.
Good deal, sounds like a good plan. I agree re theatre organ voices. The Tyros 5 (and now Genos) have the best theatre organ sounds you can get aside from an actual Allen theatre organ or some of the old Conns. Have fun!Firstly, i would like to thank you ALL for your input . I have had a few set ups in the past but never been that happy with them. I choose the Genos + Montage for a few reasons. Firstly, after much research i came up with the verdict that both the Genos and the Montage have the best sounds out there for what i want to achieve musically. I am not into Trace, Techo, Heavy rock or anything along those lines. I enjoy some more "mainstream" types of Synth based music and love to play around with sounds.(Listen to the film Creed soundtrack and that will give you an idea)
I have played the organ since a young age but nowadays its hard to get the best most up-to-date technology in organs as the home organ market is almost non existent. When i say organ i actual mean more Theater organ and church organ based which the Genos does very well especially the Theater organ!. I really enjoy playing older music from the 1920's/50's also.
I have never been the type of player to play with a lot of backing. I can't stand watching keyboardists that spend $$$$ on a keyboard to then sit there playing chords with one finger and adding a long intro and ending..POINTLESS!.
I auditioned a few other keyboards like the Korg PAX4 and the Kronos. The Kronos is a wonderful workstation but to me the strings and brass are not nearly as good as the Yamaha Montage and Genos and frankly a lot of this repetitive arpeggio sounds and KARMA bore me. I also thought the same of the Korg PAX4. The sounds are great but not as good as the Yamaha.
In a nutshell what i want to do is play beautiful orchestral movie scores sometimes using the arranger but peeling back the styles on the Genos and adding my own flavor and also be able to use the montage for more modern or 80's synth/pad sounds. Having the weighted 88 key version it will also me to play straight piano too ALSO.. like i said i get the benefit of having some great theater organ sounds which i could not find in any other board!
Thanks very much Max!Good deal, sounds like a good plan. I agree re theatre organ voices. The Tyros 5 (and now Genos) have the best theatre organ sounds you can get aside from an actual Allen theatre organ or some of the old Conns. Have fun!
P.S. I also play and am a fan of older music. Piano was my first instrument, but then I started accordion when I was eight. My first several years of gigs were all ragtime, easy listening, and polka/traditional music. I branched out into Balkan and European folk music, easy listening (ie Jim Brickman), CCM, and eighties through modern pop/rock, as well as learning church organ and some Native American flute. Band stuff now is all newer, but solo gigs are still older and European folk music, piano and accordion.
I was thinking along the lines of the keyboard itself having integral legs (foldable or retractable) Not talking about tables Gary! Tables are for putting drinks on!Foldable legs are a feature of the table style of keyboard stands, but nobody makes them with telescopic legs. More expensive to build and far more risky of catastrophic failure.
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